Comments for **UPDATE** Tomos Nitro 50 Scooter Review

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Jun 04, 2010
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The Manual Link
by: Kathi

Here's the link Ron was referring to:

http://www.vroomscooters.net/gy6_manual_6.html

And if you want to go to the Tomos forum to read more and get the links to the wiring diagrams, it's here:

http://forum.motor-scooters-guide.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=38

May 31, 2010
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UPDATE
by: Ron Goldwyn, Milford CT

I read that you are having some problems. Why don't you just take it to the dealer where you purchased it. This was the main reason I bought my Tomos from a local dealer and not by mail-order.
Look in the forum section of this site regarding Tomos. I received information regarding parts and drawings.
I hope it is still there.

May 31, 2010
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Problems with my Scooter??
by: Martin

Hi

I Have a couple of problems with mt 2008 Tomos Nitro 49 CC

The Electric Stater does not work and all the lights are always burning

Is the fuse too strong?
can it be due to a Electrical problem?

Is there a book that I can download for repairs and parts?

thanks

Nov 11, 2009
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Easy Ron
by: Jim Zeiser

Take it easy Ron. I don't have any problem at all with anybody calling my Milano a Cheap Chinese Scooter (CCS). On Scootdawg.com we wear the nametag with pride offering advice and listening to each other's complaints as we stack up miles on our scoots. I paid $1059 for my Milano online last year and this year it's going for $899. But if I went to a TNG dealer it would cost me $2200 for the same scoot before tax, title and other expenses. Of course I have the Bashan version and TNG has theirs built by Znen. Some say Znen is a premier builder and Bashan is a knockoff, I say "You're paying extra for a name".
Here's what it's about Ron. Are you happy with the Tomos? Then everything else is just talk. 10-20-30,000 miles down the road you paid way less than half a 50cc Vespa and are still going. That will be what really matters.

Nov 11, 2009
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My Response, cont'd
by: Kathi

While I am admittedly a Genuine Buddy lover, what I have learned over the past couple of years is that most every brand of scooter has its supporters... and there's a reason for that. And that's why I've given a lot of space on this site to Chinese scooters. I even created a "mini-hub" on the topic.

Just as ice cream comes in many flavors so as to please the multitudes, so do scooters!

Scoot on!
Kathi

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Nov 11, 2009
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Twisting the Facts Somewhat
by: Kathi

Ron... Thanks for posting another review of your Tomos Nitro scooter. I DO want to respond to some of your statements however, as they are not completely accurate...

1. Each state in the U.S. defines the terms, "scooter", "motorcycle", "motor-driven cycle", "moped", "motorbike", etc. Some states define some of those terms, while others use all of them. It varies a lot. Connecticut, where you live, is only one example, and is not necessarily typical of all states. Scooters of any engine size are still scooters, even if for state licensing purposes they are treated like motorcycles. That does not make them motorcycles. I explain the many differences here.

2. As I have already explained to you via email and as I have posted on my site here, I use the term, "cheap scooters" on this site because over 50,000 people a month search on that keyword term. Since we have so many Chinese scooter enthusiasts on this site, I want those people to be able to find the great information here that you have all shared. Using that term helps ensure that the search engines will steer them our way. And it's a fact that Chinese scooters are some of the cheapest scooters you can find. I'm not sure why you take such offense to the word, "cheap".

I happen to like saving money, and cheaply priced doesn't always have to equate to cheaply made. I frequently search online for "cheap stuff" because I like to buy at the lowest rates I can find. Also, Jim Zeiser, another of our Chinese scooter riders/lovers, tells me that the term "Cheap China Scoots" (CCS for short) is widely used around the Web on forums and sites that he visits. And it's not meant to be a negative term.

As you and Jim have both said on this site, knowing how to service your Chinese scoot or having a reliable mechanic who does, is essential to being happy with your Cheap Chinese Scoot.

And while you may feel that $1300 isn't inexpensive, many new scoots cost considerably more. I paid around $3000 for mine, 2 years ago. From what I've seen on the Web, that's a pretty typical price range for the non-Chinese brands.

3. Third, I most definitely DO talk about used vs. new scooters on the site, right here.

So while I encourage everyone to state their opinions and describe their experiences here, just be sure you understand the difference between opinion and fact. And please give me credit for trying to present a fair and balanced viewpoint on scooter issues on the site.

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