Bashan BS48Q-2 Moped

by Jim Zeiser
(Deposit, NY, US)

Two new additions to the Fleet

Two new additions to the Fleet

OK, confused by all the numbers? I came across this moped in an online sellers ad and my wife thought this would be perfect for our sons to tool around town. Essentially it is a clone of sorts of the Honda Cub.


It has an automatic clutch, electric and kick start, chain drive, 17" wheels and -- get this -- a four speed foot shift transmission. We bought two. At the bargain price of $490 plus $200 shipping and liftgate we figured we couldn't go wrong.

They came with some assembly required, but started up immediately and worked just fine when I was done. I've had experience with a Bashan machine (my scooter was built by them) and these retained the quality and attention to detail I expected. Not only that but they ride better than my scooter, much to my chagrin and handle more like a motorcycle which is a kick going around turns.

Not having an automatic transmission means you have to upshift and downshift on inclines, but without a clutch your foot does all the work. Just roll off the throttle and shift.

All in all a worthwhile purchase and a vehicle experiment for the coming years. The engine looks like a Honda copy, hopefully they will last like one.

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Aug 05, 2016
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Moped transmssion NEW
by: Gene

My Bashan BS48Q-2 is very hard to shift into neutral. I usually have to press the shifter backwards 4-5 times before it will finally be in neutral. It makes no difference whether the motor is running and in a forward gear or whether I am stopped, or whether motor is running or not. Not having a owner manual, am I doing it wrong?

Jun 30, 2016
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72cc upgrade NEW
by: ron watson

I must have the 62cc as it goes up to 50mph. So, I will not upgrade. Thanks!

Jun 30, 2016
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Suspicions NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

The engine identification number has a "P" in it. There was a story circulating that Bashan 50cc engines that had a P in their ID's were secret 62cc motors. I only know that mine doesn't act like a 50cc engine. It will do 50 mph on a level road. climbs some steep hills in second gear like a Mountain Goat pulls fairly well in all gear. What I'm trying to say is that going to a 72cc big bore kit may not net you much in comparison but if you feel the need for speed, go with it.

Jun 30, 2016
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bashan 50cc NEW
by: ron watson

Hey Jim,what do you think about upgrading the engine with a 72cc kit.

Jun 16, 2016
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Bashan 50cc NEW
by: adventurer7

Thanks Jim. This problem with the filter was happening before using seafoam but I will quit using and see what happens.

Jun 14, 2016
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Stop the Seafoam NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

I would replace the filter and stop using Seafoam. Changing where you buy gas won't hurt either.

Jun 14, 2016
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bashan 50cc NEW
by: adventurer7

I have found a cream like substance is building in the large gas filter. I have always used Seafoam conditioner and noticed this problem after buying used with about 300 km on it. Any ideas? Thank you!

Jun 14, 2016
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gas filter NEW
by: adventurer7

I use a fuel conditioner called Seafoam and every time I check it,it has a cream like substance build up at the exit end of the filter. Any advice?

Jun 08, 2016
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Great Bike NEW
by: Ron Watson

I have had this bike for 7 months now and it has been a great commuter for me. I have had it up to 50 mph on level road. No problems at all.Except that it is loud when wide open.

Jun 07, 2016
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Here NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

http://www.roketa.com/product/parts_detail.jsp?partId=57184&partName=2.%E6%96%B9%E5%90%91%E6%8A%8A%E6%80%BB%E6%88%90The%20direction%20of%20the%20assembly

Jun 07, 2016
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bashan parts NEW
by: walter b

I need parts for my bashan b49q-2 scooter. specifically the throttle grip. any help? wallybbb@gmail.com

Feb 21, 2016
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by: Jim Zeiser

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Feb 21, 2016
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2012 50CC BASHAN MOPED NEW
by: RANDY

HI THERE I HAVE A 2012 BS49Q-2 50CC JUST BOUGHT HERE IAM LOOKING FOR THE PLACTIC FOR THE SIDE OF IT THERE IF ANY ONE KNOWS WHERE TO GT THEM HERE GIVE ME A BUZZ OR A WEB SITETOMFIND THEM

Jan 26, 2016
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i got two of these one valve problems from day one...lose spokes n wheel isues one of the two lasted 8 months of good fun riding NEW
by: Anonymous

i got two of these one valve problems from day one...lose spokes n wheel isues one of the two lasted 8 months of good fun riding...and had one the year beafor n gave it he'll in to winter before breaking back wheel parts.....should I get another for the summer or am I dumb?.......thanx ...wade

Nov 23, 2015
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bashan bs49q-2 scooter NEW
by: ron

I bought a 2013 model of this bike and wondered about the part number for spark plug. Would like to get a ngk for it. Thanks!

Sep 22, 2015
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Aug 12, 2015
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Here NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

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If you need more than this you can call them.

Aug 12, 2015
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Parts and Engine NEW
by: Phil

I cannot find all the parts on the suggested sites does anyone know where to find parts these days?

Also, I was wondering if anyone sold big bore kits for my 2015 Bashan BS49Q-2 and where to find them?

Powerrideoutlets is where I bought mine and they honored their warranty for damaged parts with free shipping. Great site and great deals but not to good at ordering parts.

Jul 24, 2015
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Jul 22, 2015
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Something's Wrong NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

You shouldn't be having this problem. The head might be for another engine or some other issue. It sounds like the camshaft isn't compatible with the head you bought and the rocker arms aren't being lifted enough to contact the valves. The clearance is too wide as a result.

Jul 21, 2015
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Some issues with engine's valves NEW
by: Venus

HI Everyone,

I have a question. Back in January, I was using my Roketa to move around at work. I started to notice that it didn't have enough power so i thought it was a carb problem. Silly me, I put a "cheap" carb liquid cleaner in the tank. It was running fine until I heard a big pop sound coming from the engine. After inspection, I realized that the intake valve stem broke-it looks like a metal ring on top of the spring-to make my story short. After a few months when I finally had time, I decided to just get a new complete head assembly-the one that brings everything installed already: valves and roker arms installed. Those valve spring are a hell to install.
So, I was happy that my moped would be running again. But, I have problem now.
Before installing the new head back, I wanted to adjust the valves, but not matter what I do, the clearance is too wide between the pin and the valve spring on the new head.Even if the screw the pin all the way in, it won't have space for the nut that hold it. At some point I thought it was a Cam timing issue, so I made sure that I had the proper timing, but still the clearance in the valve's pins is too wide. And i believe that might be a reason why my moped doesn't start.
Thus, I wanted to ask on this forum to the knowledgeable people what they think my valve problem could be.
I also would like to add that i took all the old(stalled) gas out of the tank and will put new fresh gas in, and will try to get it started. But, in the mean time if someone understood and have an idea of what I might be doing wrong, please advice me. It will be appreciated.
I am dismayed that it is such a nice weather in NYC, and I can't use my moped :(

Jul 20, 2015
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Jun 11, 2015
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May 31, 2015
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Multimeter NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

The easiest way would be to start the bike and find a wire that's live and tie it to the headlight. These bikes have a headlight switch on the right handlebar. One of the wires coming into it should be hot when running.

May 31, 2015
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headlight NEW
by: assembly required

I need a diagram how to install electrical to headlamp. I have a mess of wires and cannot get the correct electrical connections to complete the assembly

May 22, 2015
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May 11, 2015
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Fuel NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

Two things. First make sure the fuel peacock is in the proper position. Second, make sure the gas cap is venting properly and the tank is clean. It sounds like you're getting the carb full and it empties, then refills and empties. You might try leaving the gas cap off. You are using the manual choke? These things are slightly finicky about keeping the choke on long enough.

May 11, 2015
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keeping it running NEW
by: m_fetter

Hey there,

Thanks for this site, it has been a huge help since I bought my bashan bike.

Hoping to get some help here, when my bike arrived (with the terrible operating instructions) it was difficult to get started but eventually I did.

I left it to idle for 2-3 minutes but when I pop it into gear it will only stay on for about a minute before dying out. I have since started it 20-30 times and same thing. Starts right up but dies out as soon as I start to ride it.

Any ideas?

Thanks!,
Matt

Apr 04, 2015
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Check All The Spacers NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

It's hard to see without pictures but make sure the speedometer sensor is engaged in the slots in the wheel and that you have the correct spacer on the axle. It's a tight fit. Plus dueling with brake disc pads can be a handful. My first 150cc scooter put up a fight getting the front wheel in. Everything has to be just right to come together.

Apr 04, 2015
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installing front wheel with disk NEW
by: Anonymous

having trouble installing front wheel with disc brake and speedometer onto forks, forks are not wide enough???

Oct 27, 2014
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Idle Setting NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

It sounds like the idle is set too high. Find the idle screw on the carburetor and lower it. If that's not it there's a Youtube video on how to adjust the clutch on Honda semi automatic transmissions. It could be the clutch is not releasing.

Oct 27, 2014
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Gear change question NEW
by: Anonymous

I am a big, strong guy, but when I switch this into first gear this bike launches forward and up so hard that it is all I can do to hold on. Is there something I am doing wrong? Is there some way to fix this?

Thanks

Oct 09, 2014
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ROKETA MC-114 ROCKS!! NEW
by: VENUS-NYCGIRL

This moped is awesome! Exactly what i wanted. It took me some time to figure the moped out, since i was very new about motorcycles, and here in Manhattan,NY; no motorcycle shop wanted to do the PDI because they said:" Chinese parts are hard to find". Pardon me, but that is BS! Anyways, with the free technical support I received from the online dealer i bought it from, and a Roketa Tech, I got my moped together and ready. I am now a happy camper with my moped. She runs great!
I must say that from reading advice from the moped people online. I changed the stock CDI, Ignition Coil, Spark Plug( to Iridium one), and oil to high performance parts and I use Rotella 15w40 oil.
I am slowing breaking the engine down by riding it for 1 hour or so every weekend, or about 50 miles.
I am very very excited with my choice of a scooter. My moped is just awesome! And now even more that I understand her.LOL!
By the way, I got it from ExtremeScooters.BIZ
I am very big in customer service, and so far Chad at .BIZ along with the Roketa People, Cathy and Travis, have been very helpful and patient with me.
If anyone has any questions about this moped, please feel free to ask me :)

Oct 07, 2014
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Idle Screw NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

Without a picture it's hard, but basically it's the one that's halfway back on the carburetor parallel to the ground. The idle mixture screw on mine was capped and I had to remove the cap to get at it. The idle mixture screw was near the front of the carburetor pointing up at an angle. The idle screw is on the left side of the bike staring right at you in the middle of the carb just above the float bowl. Hope that helps. BTW. These things are very tight when new. I carefully broke in the one I kept and it took over 1,000 miles before the engine fully loosened up. If you adjust it now I guarantee later you'll adjust it back.

Oct 07, 2014
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idle screw NEW
by: Devyn

Hey, I'm so glad to see that you are still current with this page! I have a quick question, on the carburetor, how can I adjust the idle of the bike. Which screw do I turn?

Oct 07, 2014
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idle screw NEW
by: Devyn

Hey, I'm so glad to see that you are still current with this page! I have a quick question, on the carburetor, how can I adjust the idle of the bike. Which screw do I turn?

Oct 07, 2014
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idle screw NEW
by: Devyn

Hey, I'm so glad to see that you are still current with this page! I have a quick question, on the carburetor, how can I adjust the idle of the bike. Which screw do I turn?

Sep 12, 2014
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You'll Love It NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

This bike is one of the undiscovered Gems in two wheels. It has all the advantages the original "You Meet The Nicest People" bikes had without the cost. Enjoy it.

Sep 11, 2014
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Ordered NEW
by: Anonymous

I just ordered one from PowerRideOutlet.com, anyone have any experience with them? Thanks so much for your reviews and helping me find one!

Sep 05, 2014
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Many Places Have It NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

Superiorpowersports.com has it as do many others.

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/50cc_gas_scooter_p/rk50sc-114a.htm

If you Google Roketa MC-114a you'll see it everywhere. www.killermotorsports.com www.powersportsmax.com www.megamotormadness.com

Great bike. You won't be disappointed.

Sep 04, 2014
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Looking for this model NEW
by: Anonymous

Any idea where I can find this bike online? I can't seem to find it.

Jul 22, 2014
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Bashan BS49Q-2 NEW
by: Geir Brose

Just got my 2014 model last week and I do have to say I love this thing!! Its a fast little thing, I have about 200 km on it atm and this things just runs better and faster every day :)

Jun 23, 2014
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SOON IT WILL BE A MEMORY! NEW
by: TWADDY38

THESE BIKES ARE GETTING HARDER TO FIND DAILY.. I AM JUST GLAD I GOT MINE AND WILL NEVER SELL IT AGAIN.

Jun 23, 2014
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the haters will hate NEW
by: jeffthecatman

I commented about this bike ona popular mopedarmy forum and the members of the site were less than thrilled to hear about my 4 stroke chinese bike. People will always be skeptical about chinese bikes until they buy one and find out for themselves. I wonder if chinese people bash italian mopeds and such lol. bottom line is if they havent owned one, their opinion does not matter.

Jun 23, 2014
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I Don't Understand NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

Why every motorcycle dealer in the country isn't carrying these bikes. He's right about the 60 mph on a slight downgrade, I've done it myself. On a level road, 50 to 55 mph is attainable easily. I'm getting 120+ mpg all the time and I have hills to climb here. One day I'm going to load this bike in my minivan and go to Long Island, NY which is the flattest place on earth and see how it does there. In the meantime these bikes are stone ax reliable and are a bargain, no, a screaming bargain. A dealer could prep them, send them out the door and never see them again. It's crazy they're not all over the place. Mine is now five years old and running better than new.

Jun 23, 2014
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Its true. NEW
by: jeffthecatman

I jusss bought a 2014 model of the bashan bs49q-2 50cc 4 stroke 4 speed with the 5 spoke aluminum rims. could not be happier. obviously the quality in the plastic chinese parts lacked but the engine and frame itself is tough. i beat on this engine for hours daily and have not had any mechanical issues aside from a broken speedo line(from my carelessness by kinking it)which is also easily replaceable. aside from that it shifts like a dream HAULING downhill at over 60mph and going uphill you can just pop the gas n upshift and it can get you up any hill garunteed. i can get up any hill in 2nd so i imagine heavier people would have no problem sluggin up the hill in first gear. i tried to find info on these bikes before purchasing them and have only found comments by this jim zeiser man and i had to find out for myself. and i did. and now im letting everyone else know that this bike is legit.

Jun 22, 2014
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JIM IS RIGHT,BOYS!!! NEW
by: Twaddy38

JIM, Z. IS CORRECT. I ALSO OWNED AND OWN A BASHAN BSQ48-MOPED AND ITS REALLY NOT A MOPED. iT RIDES AND PERFORMS BETTER THAN MOST MOTORCYCLES AND SCOOTERS THAT ARE ON THE MARKET TODAY!!! I HAD ONE IN 2009 AND FOOLISHLY SOLD IT;WISHING LATER I NEVER DID AND MADE A BIG MISTAKE. SOLD IT BECAUSE I WANTED A BIGGED CC ENGINE... DIDN,T MATTER. I BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND AM EVER SO PLEASED WITH IT. WILL NEVER SELL IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS SO DAMN FOOLPROOF AND EASILY MAINTAINED. WHO CARES ABOUT POWER WHEN THIS THING CAN EASILY GET ME FROM POINT A TO B AND BACK AGAIN WITHOUT A WORRY OR CARE ABOUT RELIABILY. I RECENTLY WENT ON A TRIP TO LEBANON,NH WHICH IS 40 MILES ONE WAY FROM MY HOUSE AND BACK WITHOUT A HITCH AND WAS HAPPY ALL THE WAY. MANY COMMENTS FROM FOLK SO... THERE. ENJOY ALL YOUR EXPENSIVE MOPEDS AND SCOOTS BUT I AM KEEPING THIS ONE FOR GOOD. PART OF MY ESTATE. (AND I HAVE OWNED MANY MOTORCYCLES AND TOMOS MOPEDS IN THE PAST, VESPA, HONDAS, ETC. )

Jun 22, 2014
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JIM IS RIGHT,BOYS!!! NEW
by: Twaddy38

JIM, Z. IS CORRECT. I ALSO OWNED AND OWN A BASHAN BSQ48-MOPED AND ITS REALLY NOT A MOPED. iT RIDES AND PERFORMS BETTER THAN MOST MOTORCYCLES AND SCOOTERS THAT ARE ON THE MARKET TODAY!!! I HAD ONE IN 2009 AND FOOLISHLY SOLD IT;WISHING LATER I NEVER DID AND MADE A BIG MISTAKE. SOLD IT BECAUSE I WANTED A BIGGED CC ENGINE... DIDN,T MATTER. I BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND AM EVER SO PLEASED WITH IT. WILL NEVER SELL IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS SO DAMN FOOLPROOF AND EASILY MAINTAINED. WHO CARES ABOUT POWER WHEN THIS THING CAN EASILY GET ME FROM POINT A TO B AND BACK AGAIN WITHOUT A WORRY OR CARE ABOUT RELIABILY. I RECENTLY WENT ON A TRIP TO LEBANON,NH WHICH IS 40 MILES ONE WAY FROM MY HOUSE AND BACK WITHOUT A HITCH AND WAS HAPPY ALL THE WAY. MANY COMMENTS FROM FOLK SO... THERE. ENJOY ALL YOUR EXPENSIVE MOPEDS AND SCOOTS BUT I AM KEEPING THIS ONE FOR GOOD. PART OF MY ESTATE. (AND I HAVE OWNED MANY MOTORCYCLES AND TOMOS MOPEDS IN THE PAST, VESPA, HONDAS, ETC. )

Jun 18, 2014
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More Silliness NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

My 50cc Bashan is pushing 4,000 trouble free miles, while the other two China scooters both have over 8,000 miles each. I fail to believe that I got the only three good bikes out of China and there are many more people like me. Go to Youtube and look up Acworthpatrick. He has an Automoto with a Chinese GY6 engine that has 50,000 miles on it. He just sold a Baccio 150cc China scoot with 47,000 miles on it since he has too many toys.
My 50cc Bashan is not only as good as many of the brands you mentioned, but better than all the 50cc scooters from all of them and I've worked on more than a few bikes in my time.

BTW, I'm 62 years old, have been riding for 52 years and have over 200,000 miles of street riding under my wheels. My first street ride was a 650cc BSA Lightning. There's nothing wrong with any China scooter or motorcycle that a good owner won't cure.

Jun 18, 2014
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scooter /bashan NEW
by: james

i have a lot of years riding motorcycles/and scooters and would stay away from the chinese ones.mechanics see them in the shop way 2 much!i would say that yamaha/honda/vespa/piaggio/are very dependable.some people like the kymco also.i have a yamaha 125cc riva.and it alwayz has been very reliable and good power.i took off the stock air box and put on a hi performance air filter pulling about 62 mph.take in mind also my scooter is a 1985.the old japanese scooters in my mind are some of the best.keep them maintained and there good 2 go!!

May 21, 2014
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Confused NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

When I got mine all the mechanicals engine-wise were assembled. All I had to do was install the front wheel, handlebars and bolt on the passenger seat. The only thing left after that was put acid in the battery, charge it and slide it in. You're the second person who said this.
The first thing I would do is remove the spark plug, plug it back into the ignition lead, put the plug against the head and spin the motor to see if you have spark. If you do, spray some starter fluid into the open spark plug hole, reinstall the plug and see if it starts.
OH, very important! Be very sure you're pulling all the way up on the choke. These things need full choke to start even in the hottest weather. Even after 3,500 miles mine won't start without it.

May 21, 2014
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Frustraed NEW
by: Kendra

i still cant get mine to start, im sure i assembled it wrong,guess i will have to call a mechanic

May 20, 2014
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Update For The Best NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

When I bought these bikes five years ago I would never have imagined how good they would be. In truth I sold the blue one two years ago for exactly what I paid for it. My stepsons never used the bikes and after three years the blue one only had 300 miles on it, mostly from me. The black one was equipped with a milk crate and it has served in about every capacity you can imagine. Errand bike, trip machine and commuter.
Last summer I used it to do two separate 80 mile rides. The first was to take some forgotten audio accessories to my stepson at his summer job in a 4H camp. The second was a run to Harbor Freight in Binghamton. The Binghamton trip was its first time in urban traffic and it did fine. At many points I was seeing 50 mph on the speedometer and it held its place in traffic.
Two screws have vibrated out and were replaced, one battery wore out after three years (the original Chinese one) and one tail light bulb wore out. It only has 3,500 miles on it since it does mostly short runs of eight miles at a time but I would recommend one of these to anybody. More durable than most 50cc scooters, certainly faster than most 50cc scooters that are stock and this handles like a dream. Looking for a 50cc machine? Buy this one. It's worth every penny.
I see myself owning this for many years to come.

May 12, 2014
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The Silliness NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

These bikes don't have a separate oil. There is only one place to fill the oil supply. It's on the right side by the kickstarter. Scooters have a separate case for the transmission and they take 85W-90 oil. The oil supply for a scooter is in the same place as the Bashan. Right side, behind the fan opening.

The idle set screw is on the left side, near the front of the carburetor. Idle speed should be set when the engine is warm. It's just above the intake manifold.

May 12, 2014
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you did good NEW
by: Anonymous

Thanks to you I found the complete parts list @Roketa. I was told by the saler http://www.powerrideoutlet.com/scooters-mopeds/pro-mcr-114d-50cc-street-bike-with-large-17inch-chrome-wheels-front-disk-brake-chrome-body-super-light-weight-basket-included.html that the gear grease had to be changed at 2,000 miles but cannot locate where to do this. What type of oil do you use. The book says 10w40 the tech told me to use 10w30, I get 200m/gal. After taking it to Scooterville for some repairs it would stall and it never did this before I took it there...where should the carborator screw be set...I say them turning it. For those out there looking for one the place above has 3 different kinds and mine is the BS490-2 $800 delivered to the door.

Feb 05, 2014
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Petcock NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

In between the gas tank and carburetor is a manual fuel valve. Make sure the valve is turned to on. I'm baffled as to why you even had to deal with the fuel line. Mine came already hooked up. You don't need to hold on the brake either. I had a great deal of trouble getting one of mine to start but it eventually fired with the electric start. The beauty of these bikes is they have alternate starting methods. There is a kick start lever on the right side and if you put the bike in third gear it can be started by pushing it. Been there, have done both.

Feb 05, 2014
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Wont start! NEW
by: Kendra

Hi, I recently purchased this model and had some trouble with assembling everything ( i did not realize it would be as much assembly as it was). Ive never owned one before nor do I have any experience with small engines...anyway I have everything put together correctly ( I think) but I struggled with the fuel lines as I could not find any reference to them in the manual. I can't get the bike to start, it acts like it wants to turn over but it just won't. I have it in neutral, gas in the tank, choke open, brake on, etc. I can't figure out what i'm doing wrong. Any feedback would be appreciated...thanks!

Feb 05, 2014
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Wont start! NEW
by: Kendra

Hi, I recently purchased this model and had some trouble with assembling everything ( i did not realize it would be as much assembly as it was). Ive never owned one before nor do I have any experience with small engines...anyway I have everything put together correctly ( I think) but I struggled with the fuel lines as I could not find any reference to them in the manual. I can't get the bike to start, it acts like it wants to turn over but it just won't. I have it in neutral, gas in the tank, choke open, brake on, etc. I can't figure out what i'm doing wrong. Any feedback would be appreciated...thanks!

Jan 27, 2014
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Gearbox Oil NEW
by: Anonymous

You don't change the gearbox oil. That screw you took out is a timing mark on the flywheel so you can set the piston at top dead center for valve adjustments.
On the other side is the oil fill dipstick. The oil that lubes the engine also lubes the gearbox, just like a big Japanese motorcycle. The gearbox is not separate like it is on a scooter.

Jan 27, 2014
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by: Anonymous

hello! happ new owner of one of these here. quick question. how do you change the gearbox oil? i unscrewed the coin head screws and i can see the clutch rotor housing- and it's dry. is it supposed to be like that? where is the fill hole? thanks!

Jul 22, 2012
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Roketa NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

I would contact Roketa. Or Peaceus.com Peace is the importer of Bashan products.

Jul 22, 2012
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Have one of these. It's broke. NEW
by: Anonymous

I've got one of these with less than 100km on it. It's all jacked up, but i'd like to get it working again. Do you know where I can get a PDF version of the manual for this? I've found some generic ones online, but they don't really match up all that well. Mainly I need the electrical diagram.

Jun 21, 2012
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by: Jim Zeiser

http://www.roketa.com/product/product_support.jsp?cateID=2610&sonCateID=0&proID=53814

Jun 21, 2012
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help me please NEW
by: chuck

i am having a hard time finding replacement parts for my 2009 bashan 49cc moped...it looks just like yours.....no one seems to be able to help me.....not even my local motor sports repair shop....PLEASE HELP!! call me with any helpful info1-207-317-7023

Jun 21, 2012
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help me please NEW
by: chuck

i am having a hard time finding replacement parts for my 2009 bashan 49cc moped...it looks just like yours.....no one seems to be able to help me.....not even my local motor sports repair shop....PLEASE HELP!! call me with any helpful info1-207-317-7023

Jun 21, 2012
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help me please NEW
by: chuck

i am having a hard time finding replacement parts for my 2009 bashan 49cc moped...it looks just like yours.....no one seems to be able to help me.....not even my local motor sports repair shop....PLEASE HELP!! call me with any helpful info1-207-317-7023

Jun 16, 2012
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Killer Motorsports NEW
by: Johnny Urive

Hi Jim thanks for that evaluation on how the scooters are holding up. Sounds good for a chinese scooter product. After all, name brand cameras, computers, even American knife companys, etc, are having their products made in China. :( I commented here on the forum back in April about Killer Motorsports. They only had the pedal version then. I see they now carry the 3-speed clutchless model, cool. I thought the pedals would be nice. You reported that you heard it was much slower than the tranny version.

Just checked out Superior Powersports. They are running a fathers Day Special this weekend. Got the RK 50cc type 114 for $544. That's as low as I've seen on mail order. Just want to say I am posting this information as common interested to others. I do not work for any of these dealers. Just like little scooters. I've admired these little ones since I first heard and read about them.:)

Jun 15, 2012
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And Here NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

It looks like your comments are being heard. Another good seller has joined the ranks.

http://www.killermotorsports.com/Rokeat_50cc_Euro_Gas_Moped_p/rkt-mc-114.htm

Who knows how long it will be before Cycle World tests one?

Jun 15, 2012
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Quality NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

I keep mine in a garage so they aren't exposed to the elements. The blue one is the least used and still looks like new. The black one has been around the block a few times and has my usual patina of dust with some road grit. Neither bike has had anything replaced. The tires look like new and all the chrome bits still shine. I need to have at least 10,000 miles on something before I make blanket statements about reliability but so far these mopeds have been faultless. I personally would put them up against any 50cc machine out of anywhere based on what I've read about their competitors from Taiwan, Japan or Europe. I had the blue one out today and it cruised at 35 mph quite easily. The black one runs near 40 most of the time since it has more miles and runs harder. I might hedge about Chinese scooters and how they fare for the average person, but not these.

Jun 15, 2012
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Integrety? NEW
by: Anonymous

Jim how is the overall integrety of these scooters holding up? You have had these for a few years now. Things like frame, paint, chrome,cables,etc? Thanks you for all the good info you have placed on this forum.

Jun 15, 2012
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Superior Power Sports NEW
by: Johnny

Hello Jim. I also found these guys ( Superior Power Sports )on the internet a few weeks back. The price I got from them then, with a senior discount, was $745 delivered to Texas. These little scooters look like fun. My main ride is a BMWR1150RT. I don't really need one of thses but sure would like to have one, just because!!!!;)

Jun 14, 2012
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Found It! NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/50cc_gas_scooter_p/rk50sc-114.htm

These guys are fairly reputable and hopefully the shipping cost isn't to terrible. Too bad about those Indiana laws. Someone is always raining on the parade.

Jun 11, 2012
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Aw, phooey... NEW
by: Alonzo Branson

Terrific info, thanks! But, after hunting about a bit, apparently the laws in Indiana say these are classed as motorcycles due to the shift mechanism...which means learner permit, license, registration, insurance, and waiting a long time until the skills test is scheduled.

Bummer!

Jun 09, 2012
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Bullet Proof NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

I haven't put as many miles on these as I would like since they're suppose to be my stepsons but in three years they have been almost completely trouble free. Someone told me that she saw a You Tube story of someone with 20,000 miles on one and she was in love with it.The only trouble I've had with one was that one of the nuts holding the exhaust pipe on the head rattled. Other than that they've run like Hondas. You can buy them from Countyimports.com but I'm only recommending the bikes, not the seller. Powersportsmax.com sells a 125cc version that I'd love to ride someday for around $1500 shipped. I'd bet it could run all day at 50+ mph. I recommend these 50cc Bashans highly. They're great.

Jun 09, 2012
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SOOO interested in one of these!! NEW
by: Alonzo Branson

I'm wondering how long Mr. Zeiser's post has been up...I just stumbled across this machine and am wondering how long he's owned it and if any issues have cropped up with it?

Apr 26, 2012
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by: Anonymous

Johnny and Jim: That alternative from Killer was the only other larger wheel rim/old school design option I was able to find this spring, and almost went Lazer until I found this model and Jim's comments. If you can find one, whether labelled Bashan or Roketa, there's no comparison- as you know with the chain and gearing, as far as hills, acceleration, overall power and response. It's a delight-can't wait for warmer weather here in MN!

Apr 26, 2012
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Information NEW
by: Johnny Urive

Hello again. I tried the Roketa site and they are a distributor only. They said they only sell to Lic. dealers. They gave me the Super Atvs site but they don't carry this model anymore. I did find this on-line dealer. May be of interest to some readers. www.countyimports.com These are selling at a little over $900. But not bad, especially if they give service like the models you have. Much cheaper than some of the Cub-Clones I've been seeing.:) Thanks & good day!

Apr 23, 2012
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Moped model NEW
by: Johnny Urive

Ah yes, I didn't re-read your main article before posting. I forgot your models had the auto clutch- shifting. Just like the Honda Cubs. Those little Cubs did run well. Well thanks for the info. I would not be interested in the moped-pedal version. Nice looking little units, though. I too hope the auto clutch-shifting units get back on market. Nothing wrong with a chain drive. Sad they don't seem to be as popular. Your most likely correct about folks more interested in the full auto, clutch-belt drive. Thanks for the info. Have a great day!

Apr 23, 2012
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Saw It NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

That model has two gears in it that you pre-set before you move. I was in contact with someone who bought it and they said it was very slow. I hope the four speed gets picked up by somebody. It's a great little ride.

Apr 23, 2012
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Dealer in Fort Worth,TX NEW
by: JOhnny Urive

Hello. I found a dealer in the Fort Worth,TX area selling a very simular model. Check them out here; www.killermotorsports.com, It's a moped design with pedals. I am not sure if your models have pedals? Doesn't look like it. I haven't seen these for sale since I first inquired here a while back. These are more expensive at $999.95. Don't know anything about this dealer. Just thought some folks might be interested. Hope this helps. Look like nice units.

Apr 22, 2012
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Fabulous Bike NEW
by: Jim Zeiser

I have mine going on three years now and they've been almost faultless. I checked Roketa's site and they still list it for sale. I'm thinking that this bike is suffering from being a manual shift. People are probably buying more twist and go scooters since they think it's easier. I don't mind shifting and the ease of maintenance is light years ahead of a scooter. Just the sealed chain alone will probably outlast five or six scooter drive belts. I hope they don't disappear. That would really be a shame.

Apr 18, 2012
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Getting harder to find NEW
by: Scott W.

I happened upon your thread while shopping units, and bought based on much posted here. Now own a new 2010 close-out bike for 2 weeks. Just over 35 miles on it. Wow. What a bike! I had a great Batavus in 1981, but this? It's something else. Thanks for all your comments. I have had little luck getting another on line for less than $750 now, for the stock remaining (is it out of production?)and the one other local in shop in MN offered to me as a close-out at $725 got snapped up before I agreed. Could be a keeper. Will post with questions and keep in touch. SW

Aug 26, 2011
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Wait A MInute!
by: Jim Zeiser

I found this, hope it helps.

http://www.roketa.com/product/1/0/53814.shtml

Aug 25, 2011
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Dilema
by: Jim Zeiser

Here's what I know about the bikes. Mine was advertised with a top speed of 50 kph (kilometers per hour) on a site no longer in business. That's about 31 mph. It's rated at 3 horsepower, the standard number for Chinese 50cc engines. In many states the law reads "No external shifting device" for a vehicle to be a moped. I live in the boonies and the lady at DMV didn't ask, I didn't tell, about the particulars of the bikes. Only what the top speed was, to which I answered "30 mph". The no external shifting is why scooters, even 50cc Vespas at $3300, are rated as mopeds. Frankly I can't see penalizing something just because it shifts but I don't write the laws. I spent a couple of hours trying to find someone who still sells them but came up empty. That's as much as I know.

Aug 23, 2011
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Need help in SC!
by: Ruthie

Hey Jim - trying to gather info on the BS48Q-2 moped. DMV here says anything 50 cc and under is a moped. This was sold to us as a moped so I purchased it for my daughter to get to work as she has a suspended license. And officer stopped her today and she went to jail because he contends it is a motorcycle, not a moped because it has gears. Can anyone tell me what the horsepower of this scooter is? DMV says anything 50 cc and under = moped. But the people who issue the moped tag says it has to meet 3 criteria...50 CC or less, horsepower = no more than 2 and does not go over 30 mph. Where can I find this info? You mention in one of your previous posts that it is advertised at a max speed of 30. Where can I find that to show the powers that be and get my daughter out of trouble?

Aug 22, 2011
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by: Jim Zeiser

I've seen parts listed at Roketa.com. I was going to buy a part for one of mine but got sidetracked. Try them and let me know how it worked out.

Aug 21, 2011
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Rear wheel
by: Anonymous

Does anyone know where to get a replacement rear wheel. I let someone ride it and they broke the hub. SMH. Your help would be appreciated.

Aug 13, 2011
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bs48q-2
by: Anonymous

hey Jim... Which company still sells these bikes and what class did they fall in b or c in ny state thanxs jay

Jun 14, 2011
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Registration
by: Jim Zeiser

I registered it the same as a 50cc scooter since it has an advertised top speed of 30 mph. As far as I know it doesn't need to be inspected because of that either. DMV has always accepted the Bashan name. Getting my Bashan scooter inspected is a little tricky but I've gotten it done.

Jun 14, 2011
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by: jay

hey jim were u able to register it in ny and can u tell me if it was on dmv list and what class it fell in thanks jim jay brooklyn ny

May 01, 2011
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Owner's Manual
by: Anonymous

Where can I find the owner's manual for this moped bs28q-2?

Apr 05, 2011
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Looking for dealers!
by: Brian

I live in VA and would love to not only test ride on of these, but save the $200 shipping. But looking online I can't find any information on local dealers. I can only find two places that even sell this model online. Even the Bashan Motorcycle USA site links me to overseas contact info and URLs. I'll probably order online if I have to, but if anyone can give me a link to dealer information I'd appreciate it. All the local dealers I've talked to don't even know about this moped. :)

Thanks!

Apr 04, 2011
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Apple s and Oranges
by: Jim Zeiser

The GB and Zuma are pricey little items that are well worth the money that you spend on them. From what I hear the 50cc Zuma is a rocket and probably climbs hills like a goat. The Bashan performs really well in comparison to Chinese scooters of the same size and, to me, are light years ahead in reliability and quality. Yes, the gearbox helps alot on hills since a quick downshift to third will have you doing 20 mph easily while a Chinese scooter would be struggling to hold 15. Do I think they're worth the money, absolutely. A chain will outlast a belt and rollers by a ton and so far my two mopeds have needed nothing more than oil changes and one valve adjustment. As they get more miles they get faster and stronger, and for what they are work like a charm.

Apr 04, 2011
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Advantages of 4-speed transmission?
by: Anonymous

I'm actually comparing the Zuma and Genuine Buddy right now, but something about this bike keeps drawing my interest, and not just the price! :) I weigh about 240, so a zippy 2 stroke is what I'm looking for, and I'm wondering if there is an acceleration or hill advantage with the Bashan transmission over the CVT used in the Zuma and GB? I live in VA and have no idea if anyone sells Bashan here- Google searches are turning up almost nothing. Not even reviews. If I can't test drive it, it's a big gamble, although for this price I could just let the GF use it and go get the Zuma anyhow. :) I just looks so fun, and if it would be better suited to hauling my butt around, why not save $1300+?

Also, is there anything that needs to be de-restricted? I certainly can't find anything on that topic?

Thanks!

Mar 02, 2011
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Idle
by: MarkM

I'll try. The operating manual says idle should be 1500 +/- 100. I'd assumed that was to keep the engine from stalling since the clutch didn't slip.

Thanks!

- Mark

Mar 02, 2011
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Awfully High
by: Jim Zeiser

I set the blue one by ear at around 1,000 to 1,200 rpm or so. The clutch engagement on them is very progressive from a start, almost like an automatic transmission. I would set the idle lower first and see what happens. Mine work fine with a combination of throttle and brakes at low speed and I wouldn't fear using them in stop and go traffic.

Mar 01, 2011
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Clutch doesn't slip
by: MarkM

How do you deal with starting moving or inching along in heavy traffic with a clutch that doesn't slip?

I have one. My knees haven't completely healed from trying to ride it for the first time 3 weeks ago. With 1500 rpm idle and no slip, it just jerked out from under me. I was left standing on the pavement trying to hold on to it.

It came with an operating manual the shows a manual clutch lever and says nothing about how to use the automatic clutch.

Thanks!

- Mark

Dec 03, 2010
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Try these Guys
by: Jim Zeiser

http://www.superatvs.com/atv/product_detail.php?id=425&pid=114&PHPSESSID=a2045bd21b7e36db90983285396f46a0

They've been selling them for quite awhile. Also www.partsforscooters.com for some of the generic parts.

Dec 02, 2010
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where get parts for
by: bobbie

I bought my son one of these.But where do you buy parts for them. And who makes them

Oct 22, 2010
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Starting
by: Jim Zeiser

"I must get to that idle screw as i am having one heck of a time to start her."

All you can do to get them to warm up is be patient with the manual coke. The black one has been better about it since new, but the blue one....It takes a good few minutes blipping the throttle and holding the choke in various positions to warm it up. I wanted t adjust the idle mixture but fear damaging the carb unplugging it. I think a small drill will take it out, but I'm living with it-for now.

Oct 22, 2010
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Air Filter.
by: Anonymous

Yes Jim. The battery box is a tangle!! I got all the wires meshed together and crammed back but Boy!! If the air filter is in forward of the battery, THAT will be a challenge to get at!! Seems there is a metal plate that restricts getting the air cleaner filter out, unless I missed something in Assembling this bike!! But how would one clean the sponge filter if its a wrist twister just to manipulate it out!! Man!! Any info is appreciated. Carol N.

Oct 22, 2010
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Idle Screw On Bashan.
by: Anonymous

Thanks Jim as usual you are the best for scooters as far as info is concerned. (I am sure you are good at other things also, lol) I must get to that idle screw as i am having one heck of a time to start her. We are, as you are probably, having a spell of cold October wind now ,here, and it,s not starting up right off like the milano does. Of couse I am not riding in this cold but I like to be able to start it up. Only got 16 miles since it arrived Monday! Yeah, that d... EPA really .... but can,t it be unplugged or will that mess the carb up!? It reaslly seems to be a great little rider.. I wish the weather was better but here we go, into cold Winter... Best Luck and thanks again, Jim. Carol N.

Oct 22, 2010
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I'll Have to Look
by: Jim Zeiser

I never looked at where the air filter was. Now you have me curious. I'm sure it's probably behind one of the plastic covers. I hope you don't have to pull the battery. Putting it in was an adventure with all the wires needing to be arranged just so the holding bracket would go on.

Oct 22, 2010
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Idle Adjustment
by: Jim Zeiser

To get at the idle screw you have to take off the plastic cover up on the frame behind the gas tank on the left side. The idle mixture screw is also there but it's plugged over because of our friends at the EPA. As I recall you screw the idle screw in to increase engine speed. I used the blue one the other day and it's much tighter than the black one. It's amazing how much difference 200 miles makes on them. The blue one only has 120 miles while the black one has 330. I would imagine by 1000 miles they are completely different.

Oct 22, 2010
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starting
by: Anonymous

Jim: Just got mine this week and all I got to say is YES!!! It did put smiles on my face!! I like it better than my silver Milano.!! Is there any adjustment on the Carb, tho, for idle speed? I would like to be able to adjust the carb, and also how the heck do you access the Air Filter?? It seems to be inaccessable behind the battery? Thanks for any help. Carol N.

Oct 21, 2010
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Bashan
by: Larry

I just got one of these for my son. On vacation in Bermuda, we rented this motor scooter for him and he begged that we buy it for him for his birthday. Well, its been six months later and he still rides it everyday! Highly recommend this one.

Oct 21, 2010
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where do you get these for $450
by: moto scooto

I AM A DEALER LOOKING FOR A MODERATELY PRICE MOPED.
WHO DIDTRIBUTEE THIS MODEL BASHAN MOPED
JASON
DAYTON OHIO
EMAIL
MOTOSCOOTO@GMAIL.COM

Oct 12, 2010
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Don't Wait
by: Jim Zeiser

I put off doing mine and broke the valve springs. The valves are spun-welded and stretch, especially the exhaust valve, by the time they reach 1,000 miles. The recommended mileage is 1,000, 2,450 and then every 2,450 after that. Eventually the scooter will start to stall at stoplights and become hard to start because of the lack of valve clearances. If you don't want to do it a lawn mower repair shop can do it easily and cheaper than a motorcycle shop. Even cheaper if you take off all the plastic panels for them.

Oct 12, 2010
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thanks!
by: Anonymous

Thanks, Jim. I dread the procedure and will put it off until I really need the valves done! They are quiet and I have plenty of power for now... The Haynes manual says valves need adjusting at around 10,000 Miles!!

You did yours at 1,000,2,000!!! Would it be o.k. to wait until, and IF, I reach 10,000 miles??? Seems like a lot of time in between. Carol N.

Oct 12, 2010
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Valves
by: Jim Zeiser

I've never tried doing the shocks and I don't know if you would have the access you would need. Everyone I know agrees on the long torturous method. Take off both rear fenders, take off the seat, take off the front panel under the seat, take off the side skirts under the floorboard, take out the battery, take off the floorboard. Now you have the engine in front of you and you can get at all the tubes and valve cover. Then adjust the valves. It takes me about three hours to take everything off, adjust the valves and put it back together. The mopeds-about twenty minutes.

Oct 11, 2010
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Valve adjustment on Milano
by: carol nelson

Thanks, Jim, for your reply. It's nice to know someone else out there is riding a Milano that's not to far from New Hampshire. My son works in NYC on Solar so we get up to NY state.

Can I ask you how I can get access to the valves for adjustment? John at GS Motorworks told me to undo the rear shock bolts, but that seems like a hard thing to do. How do you do your valve adjustments on the Milano?

I think I know the procedure; it's just getting to the front of the valve cover! The kid down the road charged me 80 bucks to change over the carb and change the rear tire for a new mount tire I provided, so I think I will try to do the work myself from now on!

I got 2,157 miles on her now. Thanks for any advice... and PLEASE, more riding notes on your wonderful blue Milano. Carol Nelson

Oct 11, 2010
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Thanks
by: Jim Zeiser

I used to visit New Hampshire to see the races at Laconia. We stayed in cabins on Lake Winnipesaukee at Alton Bay. I jumped in the lake one year for a swim and I thought I was going to freeze to death. Nobody told me it was still ice cold the last week of June. I'm glad you enjoy my writing, I'll have to do more of it. I've been busy so I haven't done anything new on the scooter, but I have an idea that should look well on these pages.
Let us know how the Mopeds work out. They're alot of fun.

Oct 10, 2010
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Riding the Milano.
by: Anonymous

Thanks, Jim. I really love your reviews... I kept up and looked forward to your little stories about riding the Milano. Wish I lived nearer, I would join you with My silver Milano. I live in Cold NH! Like upper NY state it gets dang cold here also! Keep on riding and keep up the updates. Carol N.

Oct 10, 2010
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Tube Type
by: Jim Zeiser

Yes, they have tube type tires. At 17 inches in diameter they should last quite a while. Also they're really light and don't put a lot of stress on their rubber.
Have fun with it when you get it. These things will really put a smile on your face.

Oct 10, 2010
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Tires.
by: Carol nelson

Jim: I forgot to ask: Are these mopeds running tube or tubeless tires. I want to order a spare set but want to get the correct ones. Thanks, Carol N.

Oct 10, 2010
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Bashan BS-48-Q2
by: Carol Nelson

i just bought one of these and am awaiting delivery. Hope it is as good as it sounds by the testimonials. I have a Milano 150 that I have had since April of this year and love it!! Had a split diaphragm in carburetor that I replaced but other then that; runs great. Change the gearbox and engine oil every 500 miles. Carol N.

Sep 14, 2010
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Another Testimonial
by: Jim Zeiser

You see, another testimonial! These things are the real deal. I won't say they're a better idea than a Vespa, Kymco or other 50cc scooter since they can't store things under the seat but you can bungy items to the small rack and back seat. I took off the rear seat pad from one of them, put a milk crate on it and now I have a ton of cargo space for shopping. At over 100 mpg it's perfect for saving gas over the car, not to mention wear and tear.

Sep 13, 2010
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more than 40mph
by: jamiejames

I have a friend that just purchased one of these little buggers from a local dealer. It has about 500 miles on it now and has no problem getting up to 45 to 50 mph on flats. I'm thinking of adding one to my collection.

Sep 09, 2010
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Not Flogging
by: Jim Zeiser

Did you see What Rob said:

"The little 50cc engine is going strong and has no trouble hitting 40-mph on the flats."

Mine only has about 300 miles on it and isn't even close to being broken in and I'm not pushing it at all. It cruises at 30 because that's where I'm running it. I had it at 35 one day just to see if it would do it and that was on a slight uphill grade. Where I live there's no such thing as a flat road. I want to get an electronic tach so I can tell what it's revving before I really push it. They make cheap add ons for not much money that will tell me what I want to know.

Sep 09, 2010
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Nice review, but...
by: Dan

Nice review, but 30-35 MPH with a 4-speed transmission? No offense, but that is pretty lame, even for a 50cc. My Tomos moped (50cc 2-speed automatic) would do 30 right off the showroom floor, and does 38 with a simple sprocket change. (they are under geared from the factory.)

I'd expect 40-45 out of one of those with a manual shift... Nice bikes, though, enjoy them!

Sep 08, 2010
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Still going strong!
by: Rob H.

Well - mine is at 800 miles and going great. I have just checked the valve clearance (just fine) and adjusted the chain tension. It is doing great! No problems to report whatsoever.

It looks like these little machines just might be built for the long-haul (meaning they should hold up and last for a while), but only time will tell.

I can't say I babied mine too much, I used the 'Ride it like you'll ride it' break in method. Plenty of power for its size and no smoke or oil consumption. The little 50cc engine is going strong and has no trouble hitting 40-mph on the flats.

I'll keep you guys updated as I keep going.

Sep 08, 2010
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Next Great Thing
by: Jim Zeiser

I think these bikes are the great undiscovered secret. Like the original Honda Cub, they're easy to operate, easy to repair and maintain, and ride like more expensive machines.

I had the black one out today to get groceries and it did the job admirably. It cruised at 30 mph easily, climbed hills at 20 mph and after much use filled with four tenths of a gallon. One day soon I'm going to take it on a long ride and see how it fares.

As it is, I'd recommend purchasing one to just about anyone looking for solid, reliable transportation in the 30-35 mph range.

Sep 02, 2010
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outstanding machine
by: COE GOTTI

Had a Yamaha Zuma and it was stolen, so went bike shopping and everything was too high, like $1500 and up until I found the Bashan sitting on a car lot. He wanted $1300, but had it on sale for $475.

Wow! I was pleased the moment I changed gears and the way it gets people attention all over this miniature motorcycle don't won't anything else

Aug 16, 2010
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All Done
by: Jim Zeiser

I performed the requisite valve clearance check and both the intake and exhaust were a little tight. Not overtight but under the .002 inch I was looking for. Now that the Black one has been adjusted I ran it at 30 mph and it pulls that easily. Not bad for a 50cc engine. I'm sure a little more is there but I'll let it live there until 1600 kms. on the odometer.

Aug 08, 2010
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Great Bikes
by: Jim Zeiser

I just did the 300 km service on the black one. I still have to check the valve clearances, but everything else is just fine. It keeps getting stronger and pulls really well for a 50 cc engine. After I check the valves I'm going to see how it runs at 35 mph. I've kept it at 25 to 30 up until now but I want to see how it goes with a few miles on it. After this I'll keep it at 30 mph or less until I get to 1600 km.

Jul 15, 2010
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I've got one too!
by: Rob H,

Hello Jim - I just picked one up earlier this week. No problems, easy assembly, and nice little performer. I have had several 50cc scooters and I can tell you that having gears makes a big difference.

It seems well built and runs great. I changed oil at 30, 60, and 100 km's to get the glitter/break-in metals out of the engine since there is no oil filter. The oil change at 100 was unnecessary, but it was the only way to be sure. It just seems to keep getting stronger and smoother.

Jim - how's your 2 running? How many miles? Any problems?

Apr 21, 2010
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Moped Information
by: Johnny

Thanks. Your comments about how well you think of the quality is much appreciated. Thanks for the info on how to ID a Bashan. They did remind me of the Honda Cubs from the 60's. Visually the quality looked good. Good to hear a good report about them.

Apr 20, 2010
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Look Them Over
by: Jim Zeiser

On the right side under the seat is an EPA tag. It should say "Bashan USA" or something like that. Also on the steering head will be a VIN number. Bashans start with LHJ. If it says that you're in business. I've had zero trouble with both of the mopeds since I got them. They run at 25 to 30 mph easily so far and I think 35 will be reachable once they're broken in. They ride better than my scooter and get over 100 mpg. If you need parts you could get them from the web site I posted or www.peaceus.com

Apr 18, 2010
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Information about these mopeds
by: Johnny

Hi Jim. Writing from Texas. I saw what looks just like these mopeds at a large monthly flea market in the Dallas/Ft Worth area. They claimed to have a warranty but just a sales stand, no shop. For $500.

Sure seemed cheap enough. But looks like you would be buying and be on your own. Would you buy from these folk or spend the extra and order from the online folks you recommend? Is Bashan the only manufacturer making this model that you know? The little mopeds look well made. Thanks.

Jan 18, 2010
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Other Dealers
by: Jim Zeiser

I bought these two from Americanmopeds.com I would recommend them but lately their prices have been crazy. If you're serious I would call them first and see what the heck is going on. Maybe it's a web problem. Otherwise I found these guys.

Give them a call. That's not such a bad price for free shipping.

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Jan 04, 2010
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West Coast Dealers?
by: Cascade47

This is just the type of moped I am looking for...something to put on my rear Econoline RV rack (Okanagen). I had a Yamaha Towny, but for some stupid reason I sold it last year. This looks like a great replacement at half the cost. Let me know if there ia a way for me to get one in oregon. Thanks.

Sep 23, 2009
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Sounds Like a Great Deal
by: Kathi

Hey Jim... These bikes sound like they were a great value for the money. I hope they hold up over the long term for you.

Have fun with them,
Kathi

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